Right from the start, we had this Venn diagram: On one side is creativity, and on the other side is productivity. And you might guess, right in the center is Canva. We really believe that people on the productivity side actually want to be more creative, and that people on the creative side want to be more productive. And so we really found that to be the sweet spotโit was a huge gap in the market that we saw right in the early days, and itโs where we’re continuing to invest very heavily.
What about you? How does Canva use Canva?
Extremely extensively, for literally everything. Our engineers do their engineering docs in Canva, we do all-hands, I do all of my product mock-ups in it. Iโve used it for decision decks and vision decks and onboarding and hiring and recruitmentโname something, we’re using Canva for it very extensively.
Your peak valuation was $40 billion in 2021. A year later, this was cut to $26 billion. What happened?
I think it was purely the macro shift in the market. During that time, Canva has continued to grow rapidly, both on revenue and active users. Weโve been profitable for seven years as well, so even though the market [switched to caring] more about profitability, we were fortunately already on that trend. Markets are going to value different things over time, and markets are going to be frothy and then not frothy. We are just always caring about building a strong, enduring company with good foundations that serves our community. So itโs not a particular bother whatโs happening out there in the market.
Youโve pledged 30 pecent of Canvaโthe majority of your and Obrechtโs equityโto doing good in the world. What does that mean to you?
It seems completely absurd that we have the prosperity that we do across the globe, and there are people that still donโt have basic human needs being met. The first step that weโve taken is partnering with GiveDirectly, where we give money directly to people who are living in extreme poverty. [Canva has so far donated a total of $30 million to people living in poverty in Malawi.] I love the empowerment that gives them to be able to spend the money on their community, on their family, on their basic human needsโsending their kids to school, getting a roof over their head. We have an extremely long way to go, but weโre really excited that weโve started that process.
You aim to reach 1 billion users. What’s the plan to get there?
When we set that as a goal a number of years ago, it seemed completely ridiculous, but over the years, itโs becoming less ridiculous. We need about one in five internet users in every country to reach a billion. Now in the Philippines itโs one in six internet users, and in Australia itโs one in eight internet users. In Spain, itโs one in 11. In the USA, itโs one in 12. So at 200 million now, weโre a fifth of the way towards the billion number, and if we can continue to grow as rapidly as we have been, we’ll hopefully get there.
Any plans to IPO?
Itโs definitely something on the horizon.
This article first appeared in the January/February 2025 edition of WIRED UK.
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